White House responds to secession petitions
Apparently eight of the petitions filed on behalf of each state got enough signatures to require a response. I said before that this idea of petitioning the feds for permission to secede is pathetic for many reasons. First, as the power of the state to govern is derived from the people, the power of an institution that governs states is derived from the people, and by proxy from the states. It isn’t up to any government to allow you to not be governed by it. If the people withdraw their consent the government must then dissolve. If the people of a state really want to secede, they don’t petition the union for permission, they INFORM the uber government that they HAVE seceded. Nevertheless, just to show that I favor the idea of secession, and, in fact abolition, not just of the union, but of all government. I signed two of them. One from Louisiana and the one for my state.
Today I got this email from the White House. Notice that Carson doesn’t even talk about the idea of secession as a possibility. He doesn’t say “Well not enough of the people of your state want to secede. If you can get more than two thirds, I guess you’ll have a case.”, or anything like that. He talks about the Constitution as if all rights that the People have are derived from, and enumerated in it, as if it weren’t the other way around, that all the powers the federal government has are enumerated in it. No, he quotes the constitution violator and mass murdering tyrant Abe Lincoln, as if to suggest that they will resort to any measures to which they are able, and preserve their power at any cost. After all, it isn’t the legislators who have to pay when they declare war on someone or something, it’s we.
Petition Response: Our States Remain United
By Jon Carson, Director of the Office of Public Engagement
Thank you for using the White House’s online petitions platform to participate in your government.
In a nation of 300 million people — each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs — democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that’s a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.
But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don’t let that debate tear us apart.
Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States “in order to form a more perfect union” through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot — a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, “in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual.” In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that “[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States.”
Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, “of the people, by the people, and for the people” — all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.
So let’s be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, “We may have battled fiercely, but it’s only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future.”
Whether it’s figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together — and hear from one another — in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you’ll take a few minutes to learn more about the President’s ideas and share more of your own.
What did you think they would say, “we’ll consider it”?